parenting class

Tonight we just came from C3's parenting class. Some friends of ours (the Bartkoski's) who have and are raising 6 kids are teaching the class. Having a church full of young families....it is much needed. Keri and I have learned a lot already and are trying to apply it to our family.
Here were some take-aways:
- True Obedience is : Immediate, Obeying Completely, w/out Challenge and w/out Complaint
- Biggest mistakes when disciplining are: Threatening, Repeating and Bribing. (pretty much my whole bag of tricks..lol)
- Think your actions through
* Choose your battles wisely
* Think through your steps
- Our kids are a reflection of us...good and bad....ouch
- Get eye contact and get on their level
- Be precise and stay simple
- More than the behaviour you are trying to establish values
* Think through what you want your families to be